Recorded in May 2026 at the Dev Summit co-organized by Adeo and Decathlon in Lille, an episode of the DataGen podcast brings together Matthieu Grymonprez, who heads digital, tech, and data at Adeo (Leroy Merlin, Weldom, Obramat), and Romain Taillade, Global CTO of Decathlon. SFEIR draws from it a recap structured by themes. The two groups share family ownership, customers, and comparable scale — tens of billions of euros in revenue, hundreds of millions of customers, billions of API calls — without being competitors, which allows for an open comparison.

Grymonprez's sentence frames the entire conversation: "an agent has no common sense." A human compensates for a poor definition with experience; an agent applies it as given, including when it holds for France but not for Spain. First shared observation: the platformization carried out over five years — breaking down the IT system into business domains exposed via API — was not aimed at agentic AI. It had to absorb Leroy Merlin's marketplace (from 60,000 in-store references to several million online) and Decathlon's expansion beyond 50 countries. Its byproduct is the foundation an agentic model expects: a cart API, a customer API, a payment API, with the right contract. Corollary: whoever has not finished this transition must run two revolutions at once, cultural and technological, while AI compresses the timeline.

On the customer side, a new interlocutor arrives: the customer's agent. It decides the order of the conversation and can negotiate, which the technical foundation must absorb. Taillade is tracking a question: how long before you can disappear from that conversation? Grymonprez recalls the symmetric fear at the launch of Google Shopping and bets on hybrid journeys, with the customer not delegating expensive or high-commitment purchases. On the internal side, the agent reasons about the next step of a workflow; power shifts to those who live the problems, with IT keeping the big issues.

Three workstreams follow from this: the development harness (environment, sandbox, skills), with the instruction to provide a framework even an imperfect one; security handled by zones, with zero agentic activity on payment, checkout, and supply chain; and data semantics, a debt Adeo acknowledges, tackled by vertical. On record, a precedent paid for dearly: self-service BI produced more than 150,000 dashboards before the return to certified data products. Taillade adds the scenario of the thirtieth Stripe integration: "your IT system can collapse under its own weight."